RE: [iwar] Need info on Islamic infowar capabilities


From: Ozair
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:29:02 +0500
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Subject: RE: [iwar] Need info on Islamic infowar capabilities
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I guess many people share your dream :-). Is this guy serious?

Regards,
Ozair

-----Original Message-----
From: Ravi V Prasad [mailto:r_v_p@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 8:16 PM
To: iwar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [iwar] Need info on Islamic infowar capabilities


My most important priority is to find out what types
of encryption Osama bin Laden's al Qaida, Harkat ul
Ansar and Lashkar e Toiba are using, and how to
intercept and decrypt these messages.

They are sending info on targets to be bombed / shot
at, site maps etc. to their agents in India using
encrypted emails at various cybercafes.

I need as much info as possible on this as soon as
possible.

Many thanks,

Ravi V Prasad



--- Ozair  wrote:
> I am not sure that this relates to ISLAMIC info war
> capabilities per se. It
> seems more like a pressure/terrorist group
> capabilities. It would be more
> appropriate to put the things in the right
> perspective.
>
> But you are right, cash payment for such dirt is
> welcome. :-)
>
> Regards,
> Ozair
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fred Cohen [mailto:fc@all.net]
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 8:35 PM
> To: iwar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [iwar] Need info on Islamic infowar
> capabilities
>
>
> This is a somewhat strange request for this forum.
> Since this is an
> unclassified forum, the 'everything' will be
> essentially restricted to
> things published in newspapers and things
> intentionally leaked by
> governments.  Nevertheless, we can make decent some
> guesses as to the
> reality.
>
> I will start the ball rolling by suggesting that
> they use the Internet
> for communicaitons and to generate perceptions in
> support of their
> positions.  The is generally in the form of
> off-the-shelf web servers
> and steganography/encryption products.  They also
> probably use
> encrypting radios and similar technologies for
> communications.
>
> Their intelligence capability seems heavily oriented
> toward finding
> targets for bombings.  They may occasionally be
> expected to lure
> innocents with information technology, but it seems
> unlikely that they
> have the capability or the intent to launch any
> serious information
> warfare attack against any substantial target.  They
> have historically
> been able to cordinate only a small number of
> activities at one time,
> and the logistics alone of a serious information
> warfare attack seems
> beyond the scope of their capabilities today.
>
> They could buy such a capability from others, (e.g.,
> Russian expatriots
> with special expertise) but their resources are
> somewhat limited and it
> seems unlikely that they would spend them on serious
> information warfare
> capabilities.  They may purchase an explosive device
> capable of knocking
> out computer systems in some radius, but they would
> more likely use
> larger explosives and kill more people rather than
> killing computers.
>
> These are, of course, only guesses.  For $100,000
> and in 45 days I can
> generate much better guesses.  Consider that an
> invitation to send
> cash...
>
> FC
>
> Per the message sent by Ozair:
>
> > If you get some then pass them on to me as well.
> :-)
> ...
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ravi V Prasad [mailto:r_v_p@yahoo.com]
> > Subject: [iwar] Need info on Islamic infowar
> capabilities
>
> > I urgently need as much info as possible on the
> > infowar and cyberterrorism capabilities of Osama
> bin
> > Laden, al Qaida, and Islamic militant groups such
> as
> > Lashkar e Toiba, Harkat al ansar, etc.
>
> > I would be grateful if list members could send me
> as
> > much detailed info as possible, including the
> attacks
> > carried out by these groups.
> ...
>
> --
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> tel:925-294-2087
> fax:925-294-1225
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> great day!!!
>
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