Return-Path: <sentto-279987-1119-986844053-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 09 Apr 2001 12:21:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 27828 invoked by uid 510); 9 Apr 2001 18:21:57 -0000 Received: from fk.egroups.com (64.211.240.232) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 9 Apr 2001 18:21:57 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-1119-986844053-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.56] by fk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 09 Apr 2001 19:20:53 -0000 X-Sender: azb@llnl.gov X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_1); 9 Apr 2001 19:20:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 98860 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2001 19:19:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Apr 2001 19:19:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp-1.llnl.gov) (128.115.250.81) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 Apr 2001 19:19:45 -0000 Received: from poptop.llnl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-1.llnl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3/LLNL-gateway-1.0) with ESMTP id MAA28271 for <iwar@yahoogroups.com>; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 12:19:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from catalyst.llnl.gov (catalyst.llnl.gov [128.115.222.68]) by poptop.llnl.gov (8.8.8/LLNL-3.0.2/pop.llnl.gov-5.1) with ESMTP id MAA26424 for <iwar@yahoogroups.com>; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 12:19:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010409120449.00af7d60@poptop.llnl.gov> X-Sender: e048786@poptop.llnl.gov X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 To: iwar@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <200104091147.EAA09379@all.net> References: <no.id> From: Tony Bartoletti <azb@llnl.gov> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 12:23:32 -0700 Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [iwar] A question... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > public information management (works with true information that is used > at the > > right time, place, quality and quantity) or > >Is this "selective" information? If so, it is a form of deception, isn't it? > > > disruption (where one tryies to reduce the opponents or public > attention to a > > certain subject by "noise"). > >Isn't disruption in this case a form of deception? Well, of course it is. And deception is generally intended to cause disruption ... I both love, and hate, to quibble over the meaning of words, but it is a necessary component of any real discussion. Murder could be described as the "permanent disruption of someone's functioning." I like the 5 operations described by Sibilia: > > disruption; > > deception; > > destruction; > > public information management and > > operational security measures. But the categories are not a nicely bounded as the terms might imply. If you "disrupt" an adversary's ability to control a critical process, and as an "indirect" consequence, something degenerates into collapse, did you engage in "disruption" or "destruction". Would it be true to say that "all conflict seeks to end conflict"? Confusion among terms often occurs when some assign meaning to words based upon a supposed "intent" behind the action, others to the "immediate form" of the action, and yet others based upon the extended consequences of the action. If we could be clear in which of these senses a word is defined or intended, confusion would be reduced. ___tony___ Tony Bartoletti 925-422-3881 <azb@llnl.gov> Information Operations, Warfare and Assurance Center Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory Livermore, CA 94551-9900 ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-~> Find software faster. Search more than 20,000 software solutions on KnowledgeStorm. Register now and get started. http://us.click.yahoo.com/1OWqsB/yMSCAA/7f4EAA/kzAVlB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------_-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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