Return-Path: <sentto-279987-1228-989527557-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 10 May 2001 13:47:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 987 invoked by uid 510); 10 May 2001 19:47:51 -0000 Received: from n3.groups.yahoo.com (HELO hj.egroups.com) (216.115.96.53) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 10 May 2001 19:47:51 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-1228-989527557-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.55] by hj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 10 May 2001 20:45:57 -0000 X-Sender: azb@llnl.gov X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 10 May 2001 20:45:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 76807 invoked from network); 10 May 2001 20:45:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 10 May 2001 20:45:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp-1.llnl.gov) (128.115.250.81) by mta1 with SMTP; 10 May 2001 20:45:48 -0000 Received: from poptop.llnl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-1.llnl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3/LLNL-gateway-1.0) with ESMTP id NAA20552 for <iwar@yahoogroups.com>; Thu, 10 May 2001 13:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from catalyst.llnl.gov (catalyst.llnl.gov [128.115.222.68]) by poptop.llnl.gov (8.8.8/LLNL-3.0.2/pop.llnl.gov-5.1) with ESMTP id NAA26692 for <iwar@yahoogroups.com>; Thu, 10 May 2001 13:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010510132748.00ae97a0@poptop.llnl.gov> X-Sender: e048786@poptop.llnl.gov X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 To: iwar@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <005401c0d903$85c20c30$c6774e0c@dhs96ndnozw22m> References: <000301c0d8f6$7fd69e60$ad76e2d1@home> From: Tony Bartoletti <azb@llnl.gov> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 13:51:17 -0700 Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [iwar] Group to Release Filter-Foiling Tool-My Take Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > ___tony___ > > Well, those who wrote, produced, or performed need a system of repayement. Absolutely. And I fully support reasonable means for apprehending and prosecuting those who engage in the illegal copying and distribution of copyrighted material or proprietary information. But please, call it that: "illegal redistribution", or something similar. I write a lot of my own software at home, and freely share the source code. I generate unique computer graphics, and also write a bit of music, and intend to share it as well. Hopefully, this will not mean the end of civilization as we know it :) Don't make "sharing" a dirty word. It was once considered a virtue. That was the gist of my complaint. Perhaps the pivotal point: I recognize how much more difficult it is, today, to stem the tide of such illegal activities. Because of this fact, there is a clear movement underfoot to make illegal the "means", rather than the "ends" (evidence the DMCA and its offspring). By this logic, we would make automobiles illegal because they can be used as getaway cars and means of illicit transport, or outlaw the postal service because it is a vehicle for mail fraud. Understandably frustrating for law enforcement. But precluding means critical for information freedoms is a bad road to travel, in my opinion. Cheers! ___tony___ Tony Bartoletti 925-422-3881 <azb@llnl.gov> Information Operations, Warfare and Assurance Center Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory Livermore, CA 94551-9900 ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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