Return-Path: <sentto-279987-1263-991295220-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 31 May 2001 00:48:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 27073 invoked by uid 510); 31 May 2001 06:48:21 -0000 Received: from n4.groups.yahoo.com (HELO hk.egroups.com) (216.115.96.54) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 31 May 2001 06:48:21 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-1263-991295220-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.53] by hk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 31 May 2001 07:47:00 -0000 X-Sender: Markus.Spindler@ascom.ch X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 31 May 2001 07:46:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 43622 invoked from network); 31 May 2001 07:46:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 31 May 2001 07:46:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO rubicon.hasler.ascom.ch) (139.79.129.1) by mta2 with SMTP; 31 May 2001 07:46:54 -0000 Received: from srvmailgate1.hasler.ascom.ch (srvmailgate1.hasler.ascom.ch [139.79.135.89]) by rubicon.hasler.ascom.ch (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f4V7kpR03343 for <iwar@yahoogroups.com>; Thu, 31 May 2001 09:46:51 +0200 (MEST) To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <OF9BB0D6CA.996EFCE4-ONC1256A5D.002A2062@hasler.ascom.ch> X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on SrvMailGate1/Ascom(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 31.05.2001 09:46:51 X-Filter-Version: 1.2 (rubicon) From: "Markus Spindler" <Markus.Spindler@ascom.ch> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 09:48:32 +0200 Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Antwort: [iwar] news Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Fred, all, > Civil liberties publication Statewatch claims to have obtained leaked > documents from the Council of the European Union (the 15 EU > governments), which recommend the long-term retention of "every phone > call, every mobile phone call, every fax, every e-mail, every website's > contents, all internet usage, from anywhere, by everyone, to be > recorded, archived and be accessible for at least seven years." This is discussed in public media here in Europe, so "leaked" sounds a little too much like cloak & dagger. This sinister "Council of the European Union" does not exist (at least to my knowledge). I can offer you a) the Commission of the European Union b) the Council of Europe (member states: EU states + another dozen like Russia etc.) I leave it to the reader to name the correct one. Hint: think of the cyber crime convention. Hope you are all well, Markus ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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