Return-Path: <sentto-279987-1320-992181744-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Sun, 10 Jun 2001 07:03:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 5537 invoked by uid 510); 10 Jun 2001 13:03:28 -0000 Received: from ch.egroups.com (208.50.99.226) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 10 Jun 2001 13:03:28 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-1320-992181744-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.52] by ch.egroups.com with NNFMP; 10 Jun 2001 14:02:24 -0000 X-Sender: ozair_rasheed@geocities.com X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 10 Jun 2001 14:02:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 65074 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2001 14:02:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 10 Jun 2001 14:02:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO isb.pol.com.pk) (216.252.186.212) by mta1 with SMTP; 10 Jun 2001 14:02:19 -0000 Received: from Ozair ([202.179.158.230]) by isb.pol.com.pk (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f5ADt6t16791 for <iwar@yahoogroups.com>; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 18:55:07 +0500 To: <iwar@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <000001c0f1b6$bec07640$6301a8c0@Ozair> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200106101310.GAA18659@all.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 From: "Ozair" <ozair_rasheed@geocities.com> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:07:48 +0500 Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [iwar] Controlled halucinations... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That may be so in the MKULTRA, but then we are talking about the ghosts here and that too not on a mass scale. We can also drive people into states that do not exist, by using perception management. And as everyone knows, illusion is something that is always not real. Regards, Ozair -----Original Message----- From: Fred Cohen [mailto:fc@all.net] Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 6:10 PM To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [iwar] Controlled halucinations... Per the message sent by Ozair: > Ahhh, If we live in the make believe world then, we may include > hallucinogens as a form of weapon, albeit they are not controlled. > I am not sure that if the make-believe industry can actually represent > reality. > Regards, > Ozair Not to muddy the water, but some control over hallucinogens may well be feasible. If you look up the MKULTRA project, one of the interesting findings was in the use of certain frequencies to induce the belief and indeed the visualization of ghosts. I kid you not. We may well be able to drive people into states where they see things that do not exist. FC -- Fred Cohen at Sandia National Laboratories at tel:925-294-2087 fax:925-294-1225 Fred Cohen & Associates: http://all.net - fc@all.net - tel/fax:925-454-0171 Fred Cohen - Practitioner in Residence - The University of New Haven This communication is confidential to the parties it is intended to serve. PGP keys: https://all.net/pgpkeys.html - Have a great day!!! ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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