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Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 11:07:38 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: [iwar] Duration of Cyber Conflicts
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I still argue that IWAR-as we know it- can and will
only be used as in a weapon of low intensity or in
guerilla war situations. Most likely, this is a
weapon of short duration, but significant impact for
properly utilied. However, it seems to me that it is
best utilized as a weapon suited for terrorists. The
amount of damaged it can inflict as well as our
ability to detect and deny the attackers entrance to
the targeted system is dependent on the skill of the
weapons creator.
The only thing that will protect critical computer
infrastructure from any of these type of attacks in
both intensity and duration is having counter
exploitation capilbility built into the security that
protects the computor and will give chase to the
intrutuder.
--- Fred Cohen <fc@all.net> wrote:
> Per the message sent by Dan Ellis:
>
> ...
> > think of cyber warfare, I immediately picture a
> conflict of high
> > intensity that lasts hours to days.
>
> The 6-day war only lasted 6 days - and it was called
> a war.
>
> > Some may argue that this is not cyber
> > warfare, but rather an cyber conflict. I don't
> visualize trench warfare
> > as having any analogy in information conflicts. I
> visualize cyber
> > warfare as being more analogous to dropping an
> atom bomb.
>
> I don't see this myself. In order to convince
> someone to really give up
> in a war - or to sue for peace - you have to have
> enough of a hold on
> them to force the issue. Unless we become far more
> dependant on IT
> systems that we are today it will take longer than a
> few days.
>
> > It takes two short
> > instances to persuade the adversary to surrender.
>
> Indeed, but this is not the whole story of that war.
> It took years of
> war before it got to that.
>
> > Is there an (inverse) relationship between the
> capacity of weapons to
> > do harm (intensity of conflict) and the duration
> of conflict?
>
> Certainly more harm induces peace more quickly - but
> perhaps not lasting
> peace. The Brits rapidly defeated the Irish in
> their war hundreds of
> years ago. I don't see a lasting peace yet.
>
> > (I am not
> > a military guy--just a theory guy. :) If so, how
> long before cyber
> > weapons become sophisticated enough to shorten the
> length of conflict to
> > hours/days?
>
> If we do things right, infinity. We need to make
> certain in our designs
> that this never becomes a possibility. That's one
> of the many reasons
> we undertake information protection as a profession.
>
> FC
> --
> Fred Cohen at Sandia National Laboratories at
> tel:925-294-2087 fax:925-294-1225
> Fred Cohen & Associates: http://all.net -
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> Fred Cohen - Practitioner in Residence - The
> University of New Haven
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> PGP keys: https://all.net/pgpkeys.html - Have a
> great day!!!
>
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