Return-Path: <sentto-279987-1506-996581805-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 31 Jul 2001 05:18:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 10463 invoked by uid 510); 31 Jul 2001 11:19:10 -0000 Received: from n10.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.60) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 31 Jul 2001 11:19:10 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-1506-996581805-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.52] by ej.egroups.com with NNFMP; 31 Jul 2001 12:16:45 -0000 X-Sender: fc@big.all.net X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 31 Jul 2001 12:16:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 85019 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2001 12:16:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 31 Jul 2001 12:16:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO big.all.net) (65.0.156.78) by mta3 with SMTP; 31 Jul 2001 12:16:44 -0000 Received: (from fc@localhost) by big.all.net (8.9.3/8.7.3) id FAA11637 for iwar@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 05:16:43 -0700 Message-Id: <200107311216.FAA11637@big.all.net> To: iwar@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <9k66g6+ctcq@eGroups.com> from "ellisd@cs.ucsb.edu" at Jul 31, 2001 11:57:58 AM Organization: I'm not allowed to say X-Mailer: don't even ask X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] From: Fred Cohen <fc@all.net> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 05:16:43 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [iwar] Therefore what? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Per the message sent by ellisd@cs.ucsb.edu: > I enjoyed watching this rant. It was more entertaining than the > X-Files that I usually take as my Prozac. With all of the energy we > just harnassed, I think we could boil some water. However, I finished > reading the rants and left with a feeling that we are missing > denouement. So, I pose the question.... "Therefore what?" Just as The Hunger Project ultimately determined that the reason 40,000 people a day starve to death on Earth is basically political, we seem to agree that the reason we don't have effective national-level information protection is political. Therefore - we need a political solution. Many of us - from all of the nations involved - have knowledge and desire to improve information protection. But without a political process in place to facilitate success, our efforts are highly limited in their short-term effects. FC --This communication is confidential to the parties it is intended to serve-- Fred Cohen Fred Cohen & Associates.........tel/fax:925-454-0171 fc@all.net The University of New Haven.....http://www.unhca.com/ http://all.net/ Sandia National Laboratories....tel:925-294-2087 ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Small business owners... Tell us what you think! http://us.click.yahoo.com/vO1FAB/txzCAA/ySSFAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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