Return-Path: <sentto-279987-1572-997368517-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 09 Aug 2001 07:50:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 24907 invoked by uid 510); 9 Aug 2001 13:50:49 -0000 Received: from n33.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.83) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 9 Aug 2001 13:50:49 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-1572-997368517-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.53] by ei.egroups.com with NNFMP; 09 Aug 2001 14:48:37 -0000 X-Sender: fc@big.all.net X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_1); 9 Aug 2001 14:48:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 99532 invoked from network); 9 Aug 2001 14:48:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Aug 2001 14:48:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO big.all.net) (65.0.156.78) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 Aug 2001 14:48:31 -0000 Received: (from fc@localhost) by big.all.net (8.9.3/8.7.3) id HAA16371 for iwar@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 07:48:31 -0700 Message-Id: <200108091448.HAA16371@big.all.net> To: iwar@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <200108091424.HAA16114@big.all.net> from "Fred Cohen" at Aug 09, 2001 07:24:53 AM Organization: I'm not allowed to say X-Mailer: don't even ask X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] From: Fred Cohen <fc@all.net> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 07:48:31 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [iwar] Computer and Network Security vs. Information Privacy and Confidentiality (fwd) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Per the message sent by Anonymized for your protection: > When did the processes of protecting the the data systems and network > infrastructure become synonymous with information protection? When the > population in general admitted that the systems they depended on to > create, manage and communicate their information were too complex to > handle directly. Looks right to me. > With each incident and attack on the information infrastructure > (like CodeRed) the IT community as a whole takes a more aggessive > posture regarding monitoring and data control. Looks right to me too... ... > Some federal judges are protesting the monitoring of their computers by > Washington managers concerned about personal Internet use. The judges > of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco claim the > practice is illegal. They are pressing to get it stopped, and the > Supreme Court chief justice and other judges will consider the request > next month. To demonstrate their discontent, judges of the 9th Circuit > ordered staff to disable monitoring software in May. The weeklong > shutdown affected 10,000 court employees in the Circuit, which covers > nine states and two territories, and two other court > districts......continued...... We have given up our personal freedoms in exchange for 'security' - but we are not getting security - are we? Indeed, we are getting less security and the federal law enforcement types are getting more power to monitor and coalate information on us. Our rights to privacy and ownership are eroding and the threat/fear of cyber terrorism and other suchthings are being used to take these things away from us. The right to free expression is being pushed as well - by the arrest of the Russian who published a paper on how to break a code after DefCon - for example... FC --This communication is confidential to the parties it is intended to serve-- Fred Cohen Fred Cohen & Associates.........tel/fax:925-454-0171 fc@all.net The University of New Haven.....http://www.unhca.com/ http://all.net/ Sandia National Laboratories....tel:925-294-2087 ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Small business owners... Tell us what you think! http://us.click.yahoo.com/vO1FAB/txzCAA/ySSFAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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