Return-Path: <sentto-279987-1600-997684282-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Sun, 12 Aug 2001 23:32:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 2564 invoked by uid 510); 13 Aug 2001 06:31:46 -0000 Received: from n1.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.51) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 13 Aug 2001 06:31:46 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-1600-997684282-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.53] by hh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 13 Aug 2001 06:31:22 -0000 X-Sender: fastflyer28@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_1); 13 Aug 2001 06:31:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 77874 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2001 06:31:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 13 Aug 2001 06:31:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web14506.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.224.69) by mta1 with SMTP; 13 Aug 2001 06:31:21 -0000 Message-ID: <20010813063121.95225.qmail@web14506.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.78.120.220] by web14506.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 23:31:21 PDT To: iwar@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <200108122302.QAA19187@big.all.net> From: "e.r." <fastflyer28@yahoo.com> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 23:31:21 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [iwar] Staganography Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Unless the "trade craft" you speak of is something you learned in summer camp, I think there is a fair amount of understanding that tradecraft such as it has been discussed are some of the techiques that spys-and Mr Hansen proves it is still going on- use in the field to stay in contact with their handler, and to convey information. Until nation stop playing the games which they have for thousands of years trying to work their way up the chain in power politics, tradecraft, while it is discussed in the cyber context in this group, will continue to be used and evolve. Again, it is clear that while this issue is not primary to this group, there is interest in it within the list. --- Fred Cohen <fc@all.net> wrote: > Per the message sent by 7Pillars Partners: > > > I'm not saying we invented stego, but this particular -tradecraft-. > MW > > What specific tradecraft is that, and who is the 'we' you are talking > about? > > FC > > --This communication is confidential to the parties it is intended to > serve-- > Fred Cohen Fred Cohen & Associates.........tel/fax:925-454-0171 > fc@all.net The University of New Haven.....http://www.unhca.com/ > http://all.net/ Sandia National Laboratories....tel:925-294-2087 > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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