Return-Path: <sentto-279987-1616-997937323-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 15 Aug 2001 21:52:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 25219 invoked by uid 510); 16 Aug 2001 04:50:39 -0000 Received: from n34.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.84) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 16 Aug 2001 04:50:39 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-1616-997937323-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.56] by mk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 16 Aug 2001 04:48:44 -0000 X-Sender: fastflyer28@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_1); 16 Aug 2001 04:48:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 86990 invoked from network); 16 Aug 2001 04:48:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 16 Aug 2001 04:48:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web14510.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.224.169) by mta1 with SMTP; 16 Aug 2001 04:48:41 -0000 Message-ID: <20010816044841.59333.qmail@web14510.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.78.116.45] by web14510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 21:48:41 PDT To: iwar@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010815165133.00b056a0@poptop.llnl.gov> From: "e.r." <fastflyer28@yahoo.com> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 21:48:41 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [iwar] [NewsBits] NewsBits - 08/13/01 (fwd) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cool - Tony Bartoletti <azb@llnl.gov> wrote: > > > > >Think tank urges face-scanning of the masses The famous Rand > >Organization, a putatively non-partisan think tank, has come out in > >favor of using face-scanning technology to violate the privacy of > the > >innocent masses in search of -- you guessed it -- terrorists and > >pedophiles, the two most detested fringe-groups on the planet. > >Following the regrettable inclinations of all modern governments, a > >recent Rand report reckons that the natural rights of the majority > of > >ordinary, law- abiding citizens should be sacrificed for the sacred > >mission of identifying and prosecuting a mere handful of sexually > >perverted or homicidal lunatics. > >http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/20966.html > > I guess the "Rand" in Rand Organization is no reference to Ayn Rand. > > I concur with the sentiments expressed by "The Register" contributor > Thomas > C. Greene in his article on this Rand report. I am reminded of the > quote > from Thomas Jefferson, (paraphrasing): > > "Those who would sacrifice fundamental liberty > for a temporary measure of security deserve > neither liberty nor security." > > I must contrast the technology with, for instance, cryptography. > With > crypto, there is a natural leveling effect between government and > free > citizens. The deployment of crypto is easily leveraged by either > side of > the equation. > > In contrast, although perhaps facial recognition *software* may > become > easily available, few but government have the resources to deploy, > coordinate and cross-index a million camera feeds. This appears to > be a > technology that tilts the balance of power far in favor of the > controlling > regime. > > ___tony___ > > > Tony Bartoletti 925-422-3881 <azb@llnl.gov> > Information Operations, Warfare and Assurance Center > Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory > Livermore, CA 94551-9900 > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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