Return-Path: <sentto-279987-2150-1001046033-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 20 Sep 2001 21:23:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 12279 invoked by uid 510); 21 Sep 2001 04:21:21 -0000 Received: from n18.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.68) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 21 Sep 2001 04:21:21 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-2150-1001046033-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.1.220] by mr.egroups.com with NNFMP; 21 Sep 2001 04:20:59 -0000 X-Sender: fastflyer28@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 21 Sep 2001 04:20:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 35188 invoked from network); 21 Sep 2001 04:20:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by 10.1.1.220 with QMQP; 21 Sep 2001 04:20:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web14510.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.224.169) by mta2 with SMTP; 21 Sep 2001 04:20:58 -0000 Message-ID: <20010921042058.77439.qmail@web14510.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.78.178.35] by web14510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 21:20:58 PDT To: iwar@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <200109202213.PAA31654@big.all.net> From: "e.r." <fastflyer28@yahoo.com> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 21:20:58 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [iwar] Two Excellent Postings Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Agreed. Sun tzu was right and so is bin laden. Our nation is lead by the "fools of war" and they seem to be martching off smartly, looking for a cold war. The paradigm of war has changed and the horse is out of the barn for good. As Tolstoy said -what shall we do? While the times were different, the commentary is the same. The perception of the world has changed and with it, the perception of war. --- Fred Cohen <fc@all.net> wrote: > Go to http://all.net/ > => Information Warfare > => List history > => most recent > => look for the subject. > > FC > > Per the message sent by Leo, Ross: > > > Tony, > > > I did not see these. Can you send me the linx? Thx. > > > Ross A. Leo > > > "Cry havoc! And let slip the dogs of war." Wm. Shakespeare > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tony Bartoletti [mailto:azb@llnl.gov] > > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 16:07 > > To: iwar@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [iwar] Two Excellent Postings > > > The two recent postings > > > USA.is.playing.into.bin.Laden's.hands > > > and > > > Secret.plans.for.10-year.war > > > are two excellent, well-reasoned articles that provide a fine > counterpoint, > > one to the other. > > > The challenge facing the US and the free world, and the key to > success, > > will be to adhere to the mission and methodologies outlined in the > latter, > > while avoiding the very real prospect of foreign and domestic > quagmire > > warned of in the former. > > > ____tony____ > > > Tony Bartoletti 925-422-3881 <azb@llnl.gov> > > Information Operations, Warfare and Assurance Center > > Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory > > Livermore, CA 94551-9900 > > > ------------------ > > http://all.net/ > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > ------------------ > > http://all.net/ > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > --This communication is confidential to the parties it is intended to > serve-- > Fred Cohen Fred Cohen & Associates.........tel/fax:925-454-0171 > fc@all.net The University of New Haven.....http://www.unhca.com/ > http://all.net/ Sandia National Laboratories....tel:925-294-2087 > > __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get your FREE VeriSign guide to security solutions for your web site: encrypting transactions, securing intranets, and more! http://us.click.yahoo.com/XrFcOC/m5_CAA/yigFAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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