Return-Path: <sentto-279987-2173-1001122911-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 21 Sep 2001 18:57:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 1071 invoked by uid 510); 22 Sep 2001 01:55:42 -0000 Received: from n6.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.56) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 22 Sep 2001 01:55:42 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-2173-1001122911-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.55] by hm.egroups.com with NNFMP; 22 Sep 2001 01:41:51 -0000 X-Sender: fc@big.all.net X-Apparently-To: iwar@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 22 Sep 2001 01:41:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 93414 invoked from network); 22 Sep 2001 01:41:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 22 Sep 2001 01:41:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO big.all.net) (65.0.156.78) by mta1 with SMTP; 22 Sep 2001 01:41:51 -0000 Received: (from fc@localhost) by big.all.net (8.9.3/8.7.3) id SAA31132 for iwar@onelist.com; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 18:41:51 -0700 Message-Id: <200109220141.SAA31132@big.all.net> To: iwar@onelist.com (Information Warfare Mailing List) Organization: I'm not allowed to say X-Mailer: don't even ask X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] From: Fred Cohen <fc@all.net> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 18:41:51 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [iwar] [fc:DOJ.brewing.expansive.anti-terror.proposal] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DOJ brewing expansive anti-terror proposal By Doug Brown, Interactive Week, 9/21/01 <a href="http://www.zdnet.com/eweek/stories/general/0,11011,2813652,00.html">http://www.zdnet.com/eweek/stories/general/0,11011,2813652,00.html> The U.S. Department of Justice wants its wiretapping and other surveillance capabilities vastly expanded, with the Internet and other modern communications technologies among the targets of the government's new war on terrorism, according to experts who are familiar with a new Department of Justice proposal. The proposal should be officially released on Thursday said a DOJ official. It would apply telephone wiretapping rules to the Internet and it would formally endorse Carnivore, the e-mail surveillance tool of the department that has been vehemently denounced by civil liberties advocates since its discovery last year, said David Sobel, general counsel for the Electronic Privacy Information Center. Until now, Attorney General John Ashcroft had not announced whether he would permit the use of Carnivore. The pending proposal has spawned the birth of an unlikely confederation of organizations ranging from the left-leaning American Civil Liberties Union to the staunchly conservative Free Congress Foundation called the In Defense of Freedom coalition. Alarmed by the fevered race toward passing anti-terrorism legislation, much of which could affect civil liberties, coalition members have banded together to try to persuade lawmakers to slow down. Sobel said he had been studying drafts of the document throughout the day Wednesday. Late Wednesday, he said sources in the department told him the drafts were "changing hourly." "I think it's going to take some time to see the final introduced version and to fully analyze the potential impact on communications privacy," he said. "But the early indications are that the proposal is far reaching, and it remains to be seen whether a need for these sweeping changes can be demonstrated." Particularly troubling, said Sobel, are attempts to remove the traditional line between domestic law enforcement and foreign intelligence. One lawmaker, Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., chairman of the Judiciary Committee, plans to submit legislation this week with the dual aim of protecting civil liberties while still giving law enforcement sufficient surveillance rights, said spokesman David Carle. Carle said Leahy is "working as rapidly as humanly possible" on proposals to temper the Aschcroft proposal, but added that "it's a mistake to set artificial deadlines on this legislation, particularly with the delicate balance between civil liberties and law enforcement" under enormous pressure to shift. The Senate has already passed one anti-terrorism amendment to the Commerce-Justice-State appropriations bill that expands the wiretapping and cybersurveillance powers of law enforcement officers. "There's a lot of stuff here that needs to be publicly debated," said Mike Godwin, a policy analyst with the Center for Democracy and Technology. He said the package of legislative proposals was highly complex, and he was taking it home with him after work to read. Civil liberties activists like Sobel and Godwin are frantically trying to obtain and digest updated versions of the document before it captivates lawmakers, who could pass the legislation as quickly as they choose. Earlier this week, Ashcroft urged lawmakers to pass the legislation by the end of the week. But Sobel said that's unlikely to happen. "I'm hearing late [Wednesday] that the attempt to rush this through has subsided," said Sobel. "It sounds like they have backed off, and there will in fact be hearings." ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Pinpoint the right security solution for your company- Learn how to add 128- bit encryption and to authenticate your web site with VeriSign's FREE guide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/JNm9_D/33_CAA/yigFAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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