Return-Path: <sentto-279987-2216-1001181005-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Sat, 22 Sep 2001 10:53:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 31744 invoked by uid 510); 22 Sep 2001 17:51:04 -0000 Received: from n9.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.59) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 22 Sep 2001 17:51:04 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-2216-1001181005-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.1.224] by fl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 22 Sep 2001 17:50:39 -0000 X-Sender: ozair_rasheed@geocities.com X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 22 Sep 2001 17:50:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 53448 invoked from network); 22 Sep 2001 17:50:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by 10.1.1.224 with QMQP; 22 Sep 2001 17:50:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO isb.pol.com.pk) (216.252.186.212) by mta2 with SMTP; 22 Sep 2001 17:50:31 -0000 Received: from Ozair ([202.179.146.123]) by isb.pol.com.pk (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8MHnhB26556 for <iwar@yahoogroups.com>; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 22:49:43 +0500 To: "Info War" <iwar@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <000c01c14390$9960e3e0$6301a8c0@Ozair> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200109220627.XAA05283@big.all.net> From: "Mohammad Ozair Rasheed" <ozair_rasheed@geocities.com> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 23:01:25 +0500 Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [iwar] Tackling terror with technology Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: Fred Cohen [mailto:fc@all.net] Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 11:28 AM To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [iwar] Tackling terror with technology Per the message sent by Mohammad Ozair Rasheed: > It seems that according to this news the earlier message on this group > about terrorists using Steganography was baseless. If you believe this story... for example that nobody uses non-trivial passwords... I cannot comment further, but suffice it to say that I do not believe that particular analysis. [Ozair] I did not believe the story about steganography, but the kind of enthusiasm that it gave the group made me remember it. And this article was just for the sharing :). > Regards, > Ozair > P.S. Fred, I shall answer your questions on the e-mail earlier (I am > traveling quite a bit these days) but for now I just point to two > programs by the BBC Panorama team, one was the case for Sabra and > Shatilla camps and the other was the documentary on the prison site > that was run by Israeli Army. I agree that these may be horrendous treatment, but they are not 'terrorist' because they are carried out by an identifiable government against targetted people. That's just old fashioned opression and abuse, not terrorism. As an aside, the bible records many other instances of 'holy wars' as does the Koran. Today most of us we presume that these are lessons to help us understand the need for peaceful settlement of differences, but clearly there is historical evidence for lots of abuses by militaries of all sorts. [Ozair] :) Are you changing the definition of terrorist and terrorism? [Ozair] I am not an expert on both Quran and Bible in this context and would thereby decline to comment on this until I have a fairly good understanding of them in this context. FC --This communication is confidential to the parties it is intended to serve-- Fred Cohen Fred Cohen & Associates.........tel/fax:925-454-0171 fc@all.net The University of New Haven.....http://www.unhca.com/ http://all.net/ Sandia National Laboratories....tel:925-294-2087 ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Pinpoint the right security solution for your company- Learn how to add 128- bit encryption and to authenticate your web site with VeriSign's FREE guide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/JNm9_D/33_CAA/yigFAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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