Return-Path: <sentto-279987-2398-1001567829-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:18:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 802 invoked by uid 510); 27 Sep 2001 05:17:26 -0000 Received: from n8.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.58) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 27 Sep 2001 05:17:26 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-2398-1001567829-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.1.222] by fk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 27 Sep 2001 05:17:10 -0000 X-Sender: fc@big.all.net X-Apparently-To: iwar@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 27 Sep 2001 05:17:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 29670 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2001 05:17:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by 10.1.1.222 with QMQP; 27 Sep 2001 05:17:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO big.all.net) (65.0.156.78) by mta1 with SMTP; 27 Sep 2001 05:17:09 -0000 Received: (from fc@localhost) by big.all.net (8.9.3/8.7.3) id WAA02580 for iwar@onelist.com; Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:17:09 -0700 Message-Id: <200109270517.WAA02580@big.all.net> To: iwar@onelist.com (Information Warfare Mailing List) Organization: I'm not allowed to say X-Mailer: don't even ask X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] From: Fred Cohen <fc@all.net> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:17:08 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [iwar] [fc:Broader.surveillance.won't.prevent.terrorism.-Schneier] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Broader surveillance won't prevent terrorism -Schneier By John Leyden, The Register, 9/26/2001 <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/21892.html">http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/21892.html> The clamour for the introduction of wider surveillance measures has been deafening in the wake of the September 11 terror attacks. To date, opponents against such moves have argued mostly for civil liberties reasons. But the case against can also be made on the grounds that more surveillance simply won't work. That's the analysis of Bruce Schneier, founder and chief technology officer of Counterpane Internet Security, who says the failure to anticipate the September 11 attacks was one of data interpretation, not data collection. Speaking today at the Information Security Solution Europe conference in London, Schneier drew parallels between Internet security and physical security to make his point that more widespread monitoring is in itself unlikely to prevent terrorism. "You can either build a system right or build it wrong and watch everybody," said Schneier. "Broad surveillance is generally the sign of a badly designed system of security." Instead of relying on collecting more data (signals intelligence), counter terrorism agencies should put more effort into human intelligence. "The Stasi collected data on four million East Germans, roughly one fourth of their population. Yet they failed to predict the fall of the Berlin Wall because they invested too heavily in data collection and too little in data interpretation and human intelligence," Schneier argued. He said it was possible to increase security without taking away privacy and liberty and encouraged people to look for real answers to the problem of terrorism, which he admitted was far from straightforward. He suggested combing prevention, detection, and response to achieve something approaching robust and resilient security was the best we could hope for. There's a chance to redesign our "public infrastructures for security", according to Schneier. We wonder if this root-and-branch option will be adopted. reg; ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Pinpoint the right security solution for your company- Learn how to add 128- bit encryption and to authenticate your web site with VeriSign's FREE guide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yQix2C/33_CAA/yigFAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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