Return-Path: <sentto-279987-2433-1001603605-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 27 Sep 2001 08:16:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 2742 invoked by uid 510); 27 Sep 2001 15:15:03 -0000 Received: from n5.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.55) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 27 Sep 2001 15:15:03 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-2433-1001603605-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.1.220] by hl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 27 Sep 2001 15:14:46 -0000 X-Sender: bkdelong@pobox.com X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_4_1); 27 Sep 2001 15:13:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 53887 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2001 15:13:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by 10.1.1.220 with QMQP; 27 Sep 2001 15:13:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO brain-stream.com) (209.95.107.206) by mta2 with SMTP; 27 Sep 2001 15:14:46 -0000 Received: from dreadnought.pobox.com (h005004dffe6f.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.110.237]) by brain-stream.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA14930 for <iwar@yahoogroups.com>; Thu, 27 Sep 2001 08:14:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010927111205.04c2fec0@brain-stream.com> X-Sender: bkdelong@brain-stream.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 To: iwar@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <20010927150837.43142.qmail@web14505.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010927100645.059e01f0@brain-stream.com> From: "B.K. DeLong" <bkdelong@pobox.com> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 11:16:03 -0400 Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [iwar] Comments on the Dartmouth Security Study Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit At 08:08 AM 09/27/2001 -0700, you wrote: >suspect actions of kids have cost this cost a great deal of money. >Nothing is a joke any longer. Of course it's not a joke and, yes, these kids have cost our country a great deal of money. However to raise these types of Web defacements and DDoS activity to be side-by-side with the horrific event of 9-11 is outrageous and flat out wrong - no one has yet died from a "cyber attack". Vatis' report serves to raise the importance of what is minor activity compared to the true terrorism going on right now. I would have stripped out all the material about DDoS' and Web defacements and really taken a look at utilities, airport security and ATC systems as well as other such infrastructure within our country who's compromise could cause some REAL serious problems. -- B.K. DeLong bkdelong@pobox.com 617.877.3271 http://www.brain-stream.com Play. http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org Potter. http://www.attrition.org Security. http://www.artemisiabotanicals.com Herb. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get your FREE VeriSign guide to security solutions for your web site: encrypting transactions, securing intranets, and more! http://us.click.yahoo.com/UnN2wB/m5_CAA/yigFAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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