Return-Path: <sentto-279987-2488-1001713645-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 28 Sep 2001 14:48:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 11278 invoked by uid 510); 28 Sep 2001 21:47:40 -0000 Received: from n29.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.79) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 28 Sep 2001 21:47:40 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-2488-1001713645-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.52] by b05.egroups.com with NNFMP; 28 Sep 2001 21:47:25 -0000 X-Sender: fc@big.all.net X-Apparently-To: iwar@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_4_1); 28 Sep 2001 21:47:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 50156 invoked from network); 28 Sep 2001 21:47:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 28 Sep 2001 21:47:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO big.all.net) (65.0.156.78) by mta1 with SMTP; 28 Sep 2001 21:47:24 -0000 Received: (from fc@localhost) by big.all.net (8.9.3/8.7.3) id OAA15537 for iwar@onelist.com; Fri, 28 Sep 2001 14:47:24 -0700 Message-Id: <200109282147.OAA15537@big.all.net> To: iwar@onelist.com (Information Warfare Mailing List) Organization: I'm not allowed to say X-Mailer: don't even ask X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] From: Fred Cohen <fc@all.net> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 14:47:24 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [iwar] [fc:Bin.Laden's.Past.Words.Revisited] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bin Laden's Past Words Revisited The Associated Press, Fri 28 Sep 2001 DAMASCUS, Syria (AP) — All American men are the enemy, Osama bin Laden says. And the United States owes Muslims $36 trillion, payback for ``the biggest theft'' in history — the purchase of cheap oil from the Persian Gulf. A book with that and more of bin Laden in his own words has been snapped up by Arabic readers in the weeks since he was named the No. 1 suspect in the Sept. 11 suicide bombings in New York and Washington. The book, ``Bin Laden, Al-Jazeera — and I'' by Jamal Abdul Latif Ismail, includes a 54-page transcript of the complete 1998 interview that was broadcast in abbreviated form on Al-Jazeera, a popular television program. Al-Jazeera has rebroadcast its version of the interview, conducted by Ismail, since the attacks. Those hungry for more often found copies sold out in book stores across the Mideast. Readers have been borrowing and photocopying the book from friends. Bin Laden spoke to Ismail in a tent in mountainous southern Afghanistan four months after the August 1998 bombings of two U.S. embassies in Africa — attacks in which he's also a suspect. Bin Laden began the interview with personal notes, saying he was born 45 years ago, in the Muslim year of 1377, in the Saudi capital of Riyadh. The family later moved between the two holy cities of Mecca and Medina and the port city of Jiddah. Bin Laden's father, Muhammad, who was born in the Yemeni region of Hadramawt, was a prominent construction magnate who built the major mosques in Mecca and Medina and undertook repairs on Jerusalem's Dome of the Rock. He died when bin Laden was 10. After getting a degree in economics at a university in Jiddah, bin Laden joined his father's company before beginning his road to jihad. Even before President Bush mentioned the word ``crusade'' in describing the anti-terror campaign, bin Laden was using that term to describe alleged U.S. intentions against Muslims. ``There's a campaign that's part of the ongoing Crusader-Jewish wars against Islam,'' bin Laden told Ismail. Asked about his 1998 fatwa, or edict, urging Muslims to target not only the U.S. military, but also American civilians, bin Laden said only American men were the target. ``Every American man is an enemy whether he is among the fighters who fight us directly or among those who pay taxes,'' bin Laden said. Bin Laden claimed Western attacks on Arabs, such as the British-U.S. bombings of Iraq, were directed by Israelis and Jews who have infiltrated the White House, the Defense Department, the State Department and the CIA. His views on other issues: — On reports he was trying to acquire chemical, biological and nuclear weapons, bin Laden said: ``At a time when Israel stores hundreds of nuclear warheads and bombs and the Western Crusaders control a large percentage of these weapons, this should not be considered an accusation but a right. ... It's like asking a man, 'Why are you such a courageous fighter?' Only an unbalanced person would ask such a question. ``It's the duty of Muslims to own (the weapons), and America knows that, today, Muslims have acquired such a weapon.'' —On whether he's ready to stand trial in an Islamic court: ``We are ready at any time for a legitimate court ... If the plaintiff is the United States of America, we at the same time will sue it for many things ... it committed in the land of Muslims.'' —Bin Laden denied he was behind the 1998 embassy bombings, but acknowledged he ``has incited (Muslims) to wage jihad.'' —Asked about the freezing of his assets, bin Laden said even though the United States has pressured several countries to ``rob us of our rights,'' he and his followers have survived. ``We feel that the whole universe is with us and money is like a passing shadow. We urge Muslims to spend their money on jihad and especially on the movements that have devoted themselves to the killing of Jews and the Crusaders.'' —On the U.S.-backed fight against the Soviet presence in Afghanistan: ``Those who waged jihad in Afghanistan ... knew they could, with a few RPGs (rocket-propelled grenades), a few anti-tank mines and a few Kalashnikovs, destroy the biggest military myth humanity has ever known. The biggest military machine was smashed and with it vanished from our minds what's called the superpower.'' — Asked about the money the United States put on his head, bin Laden said: ``Because America worships money, it believes that people think that way too. By Allah, I haven't changed a single man (guard) after these reports.'' — Bin Laden claimed the United States has carried out the ``biggest theft in history'' by buying oil from Persian Gulf countries at low prices. According to bin Laden, a barrel of oil today should cost $144. Based on that calculation, he said, the Americans have stolen $36 trillion from Muslims and they owe each member of the faith $30,000. ``Do you want (Muslims) to remain silent in the face of such a huge theft?'' bin Laden said. — His message to the world: ``Regimes and the media want to strip us of our manhood. We believe we are men, Muslim men. We should be the ones defending the greatest house in the world, the blessed Kaaba ... and not the female, both Jewish and Christian, American soldiers.'' Bin Laden was referring to the U.S. troops that have deployed in Saudi Arabia since 1990 following Iraq's invasion of Kuwait. ``The rulers in the region said the Americans would stay a few months, but they lied from the start. ... Months passed, and the first and second years passed and now we're in the ninth year and the Americans lie to everyone. ... ``It's in my interest.' ``Our goal is to liberate the land of Islam from the infidels and establish the law of Allah.'' ------------------------ Yahoo! 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