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This appeared in an open source journal. --- Fred Cohen <fc@all.net> wrote: > CIA, FBI Developing Intelligence Supercomputer > > Ref: Government Executive, 12 Feb 2002 > > <a > href="http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0202/021202gsn1.htm">http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0202/021202gsn1.htm> > > by Greg Seigle, Global Security Newswire > > After months of criticism that they do not work well together, the > CIA and FBI have > begun jointly developing a new supercomputer system designed to > improve their ability > to both cull and share information, White House and other U.S. > officials told Global > Security Newswire yesterday. > > Under a directive issued by President Bush, and overseen by Office of > Homeland Security > officials, CIA and FBI officials are "working like crazy" to create a > comprehensive > database that could used by various federal and, in some cases, state > agencies, officials > said. > > "They're trying to push more data and resources to the agencies and > people in the > field that otherwise wouldn't have them," a U.S. official said, > referring to a data-mining > system that could be used by the 32 federal agencies that collect > classified information. > > "There are several communitywide data-mining architectures that are > being looked > at to allow information sharing among the intelligence and law > enforcement communities," > the official continued. "A lot of it is tied to the homeland security > initiatives." > > The federal government is spending $155 million this year for > "information and intelligence > sharing," with $722 million more requested in next year's White House > budget proposal, > according to Homeland Security Office spokesman Gordon Johndroe. > > "The goals are to tear down the information stovepipes," Johndroe > said yesterday, > referring to the long-held practice of various agencies to keep data > to themselves. > "Information stays in one pipe, and now we're going to tear down > those stovepipe > walls." > > Key Move > > The creation of a new data-mining base, one capable of collecting > unprecedented > amounts of information that could be distributed to an array of > agencies, has been > viewed as the key move needed to prod the CIA, FBI and other > secretive organizations > to truly open up and work more closely and effectively together, > officials and analysts > said. > > The sharing of a single database by the various agencies could allow > U.S. authorities > to better monitor terrorists and their financial support > structures--and the companies > and countries that participate in the spread of weapons of mass > destruction, they > said. > > "It's not going to be easy to do this," said L. Paul Bremer, a former > ambassador > at large for counterterrorism who co-chaired a January Heritage > Foundation report, > "Defending the American Homeland," that deemed as "critical" more > information sharing > among intelligence agencies. "It isn't going to solve the problem, > but it's going > to make it more difficult for [terrorists] to enter the country," he > said. > > Prior to the Sept. 11 attacks that killed about 3,100 people, five of > the 19 hijackers > were on various government watch lists but were never detected prior > to the airline > attacks, Bremer said. > > The creation of a database shared by various intelligence and law > enforcement agencies > is "the first step in the right direction," said Bud DeFlaviis, > spokesman for Rep. > Curt Weldon, R-Pa., who has been pushing for such a system. > > "It will only improve the flow of information between the agencies," > the U.S. official > said. "In the post-Sept. 11 environment there's greater desire for > more information." > > Pooling Resources > > The use of massive high-speed computers with cutting-edge software > could allow a > wide range of U.S. organizations to pool resources, enabling them to > better monitor > and prevent the movements of terrorists and those that participate in > the proliferation > of dangerous weapons, officials said. > > Utilizing the types of supercomputers already used by private > industry to conduct > marketing research, the CIA, FBI and other investigative agencies > should be able > to move beyond Counterintelligence-21--an information-sharing system > now being used > but already considered outdated, analysts said. The new system would > take advantage > of a faster, more comprehensive database, they said. > > The new system under development should "meet the needs of all the > consumers," the > U.S. official said. "A lot of it is driven by [Homeland Security > Director] Tom Ridge's > office. It's something [CIA and FBI officials are] working on > continuously. They're > continuously meeting, discussing and designing the new database." > > "It's been the topic of discussion" during meetings between Ridge and > President > Bush, Johndroe said. > > Casting a Larger Net > > A new supercomputer "will only help the information flow between the > agencies, particularly > between the federal agencies and the state and local authorities," > the U.S. official > said. "It's going to help the people who need it the most--first > responders, the > military, whoever." > > The officials and analysts have said that it could be dangerous for > too many people > to get their hands on classified information during the war on > terrorism, a concern > balanced by the need to get information to all pertinent officials, > including state > and local authorities. > > There are ways to safeguard the information on a single database, so > that data is > shared only on a "need to know" basis, they said. > > Currently when intelligence agencies share information they do not > provide raw data. > Instead they offer outside agencies their interpretations of such > data, a slow, cumbersome > and often incomplete process, analysts said. > > To make the most of scarce resources, intelligence officials need to > make their > raw data available to pertinent agencies or officials, analysts > added. > > FBI officials would not comment, but the U.S. official said the major > challenge > in devising a new supercomputer is making sure it has all the proper > safeguards needed > to protect the vital information it provides. > > "Intelligence agencies are very reluctant to put a lot of information > on a database > that can be shared," Bremer said. "There are very few home runs in > counterintelligence. > You win with a lot of bunts and singles." > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Got something to say? Say it better with Yahoo! Video Mail http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Sponsored by VeriSign - The Value of Trust Do you need to encrypt all your online transactions? Find the perfect solution in this FREE Guide from VeriSign. http://us.click.yahoo.com/jWSNbC/UdiDAA/yigFAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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