Return-Path: <sentto-279987-5164-1029108029-fc=all.net@returns.groups.yahoo.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 [204.181.12.215] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.7.4) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Sun, 11 Aug 2002 16:22:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7534 invoked by uid 510); 11 Aug 2002 23:19:06 -0000 Received: from n33.grp.scd.yahoo.com (66.218.66.101) by all.net with SMTP; 11 Aug 2002 23:19:06 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-5164-1029108029-fc=all.net@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.200] by n33.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2002 23:20:29 -0000 X-Sender: junkmail@barnowl.com X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 11 Aug 2002 23:20:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 16500 invoked from network); 11 Aug 2002 23:20:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Aug 2002 23:20:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail15.messagelabs.com) (63.210.62.243) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Aug 2002 23:20:28 -0000 X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 18093 invoked from network); 11 Aug 2002 23:20:07 -0000 Received: from nospam.barnowl.com (HELO barnowl.com) (206.72.12.109) by server-8.tower-15.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 11 Aug 2002 23:20:07 -0000 Received: from mmedia01 (unknown [10.1.1.132]) by barnowl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A1FC1ED75 for <iwar@yahoogroups.com>; Sun, 11 Aug 2002 18:15:47 -0500 (CDT) To: <iwar@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <DCEJIBODBPNAOCPAPLHGAEILFMAA.junkmail@barnowl.com> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 In-Reply-To: <200208111313.g7BDDm905689@red.all.net> From: "Rob Rosenberger" <junkmail@barnowl.com> X-Yahoo-Profile: barnowlcom Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 18:20:22 -0500 Subject: [iwar] Infowar means NOTHING to Joe SixPack Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.20 X-Spam-Level: I just uploaded the audio from my opening keynote this week at CERT conference 2002. Two MP3 files, 55:25 total time: http://Vmyths.com/mm/rants/2002/certconf.asx Part 1: "You mean NOTHING to Joe SixPack" Part 2: "Security experts need to lighten up" followed by a Q&A session I've wanted to do a keynote like this for a looooong time. I've wanted to put security experts in their place by telling them just how little they mean to Joe SixPack. You'll notice I start out with comedy & laughter ... but the giggles slowly dissolve as I venture toward Joe SixPack's preoccupation with physical terrorism after 9/11. An important quote near the end of part 1: "This is a picture of a woman [who jumped from a WTC tower]... SPLAT! Nine seconds to die. Not once did she think about you. Not once did she think about 'wow, what's happening to all my computers on the 78th floor as I plummet to my death?' Not once did she care. Not once did the people who were watching this care about you. That's what's really sad here. And what you want to do as a society ... is you want to take billions of dollars away from people who watched the towers collapse. Who ran from a 25mph 20-story-tall billowing wall of smoke. You want to take billions of dollars away from them and you want to put it into a cyber-terrorism pot. And you want to take money out of that, and you want to protect them from electrons..." In part 1, I bashed a speaker in the audience who "verbally confirmed" the mafia now does hits over the Internet. I also talked about how Al Qaeda might exploit the computer security industry (at least twice!) as idiotic pawns in future physical terrorism events. "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me..." In part 3, I described the co-dependent relationship between CERT & NIPC, plus I laid heavily into CERT director Richard Pethia. (Listen for my "hey Richard, as one woman to another..." quip.) Everyone who studies iwar should listen to this audio. Enough said. Rob Weekly newsletter signup: http://Vmyths.com/news.cfm ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> 4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/Ey.GAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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