Return-Path: <sentto-279987-1247-990456813-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 21 May 2001 07:55:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 3297 invoked by uid 510); 21 May 2001 13:55:12 -0000 Received: from hm.egroups.com (208.50.99.198) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 21 May 2001 13:55:12 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-1247-990456813-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.56] by hm.egroups.com with NNFMP; 21 May 2001 14:53:36 -0000 X-Sender: fc@all.net X-Apparently-To: iwar@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 21 May 2001 14:53:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 29599 invoked from network); 21 May 2001 14:52:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 21 May 2001 14:52:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO all.net) (65.0.156.78) by mta1 with SMTP; 21 May 2001 14:52:52 -0000 Received: (from fc@localhost) by all.net (8.9.3/8.7.3) id HAA00335 for iwar@onelist.com; Mon, 21 May 2001 07:52:52 -0700 Message-Id: <200105211452.HAA00335@all.net> To: iwar@onelist.com (Information Warfare Mailing List) Organization: I'm not allowed to say X-Mailer: don't even ask X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] From: Fred Cohen <fc@all.net> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 07:52:52 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [iwar] Attrition stopping its services... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > ATTRITION: Evolution Definition Attrition.org is a non-profit hobby site run by a handful of volunteers in their free time. Each staff member at Attrition has a day job that takes a considerable amount of time, as well as other hobbies, and a social life (despite popular rumor). Over the last two years, the site has moved from a few random specialty pages to an archive of over seven gigs of diverse material and specialized content. With no corporate backing, no income, no 'guidance', no leash and no muzzle, Attrition continued to move in a direction that values truth and bluntness over sugar coated words and fluff. Decision One of the most predominant sections of Attrition has been the defacement mirror. What began as a small collection of web site defacement mirrors soon turned into a near 24/7 chore of keeping it up to date. In the last month, we have experienced single days of mirroring over 100 defaced web sites, over three times the total for 1995 and 1996 combined. With the rapid increase in web defacement activity, there are times when it requires one of us to take mirrors for four or five hours straight to catch up. Add to that the scripts and utilities needed to keep the mirror updated, statistics generated, mail lists maintained, and the time required for basic functionality is immense. A "hobby" is supposed to be enjoyable. Maintaining the mirror is becoming a thankless chore. During this time, we have struggled to keep up various other sections of Attrition that have been a core part of the site. As the mirror grew and began to consume more resources, the other sections have found themselves on the backburner and rarely updated. In essence, what was once a hobby site run in spare time for fun has turned into a beleaguring second job. A job that comes with more headache, complaints, criticisms, slander and attacks than productive output or reward. In two years we have turned away countless computer security work that could have been fulfilled by a number of us. The abuse and ignorance we deal with from defacers and defacement victims is staggering, and some of that abuse spills over into actual attacks. Attrition has been taken down more than once by massive denial of service attacks which have inconvenienced our generous upstream provider, hundreds of other colo customers, and thousands of dialup customers, making our job even more difficult. With that, the mirror will no longer be maintained. We've served our time. Direction As the mirror itself is phased out, several aspects of the process will remain. One of the most useful and practical resources spawned from the mirror are the statistics generated. It is our intention to continue to perform statistical analysis of defacements by utilizing the Alldas mirror. We have already begun sharing incoming defacement notifications with them to help facilitate the accurate and consistent mirroring of sites as we learn of them. We will also continue to provide commentary and articles on high profile defacements, significant trends or other activity that warrants attention. Resurrection and revamping of our Errata section should happen in the short term. It has been an oft overlooked resource despite the infrequent updates. With security and hackers becoming ever more popular with the press outlets, the need for vigilance is growing. It is important for members of the security community to be aware of journalists and news outlets more interested in flashy headlines and a quick buck. The various subsections of our security page will continue to be updated including more guides to implementing security, testing security, forensics, incident response and more. No doubt various staff members will continue to add to the 'rants' page as time goes on. Several other areas such as the image gallery, music reviews, movie reviews, poetry, contests, and the ever popular 'Going Postal' will now receive more attention. Dedication As more and more hours were dedicated to running the mirror, the feeling of burnout crept into a few of us. Despite this, it is our intention that we stay dedicated to Attrition and improving it on a daily basis. This doesn't mean there will be new visible content on the news page every day. It does mean that every day we will be working on one aspect of the site or another. Often times this is done by answering mail, developing small utilities to help improve the quality of administrative life, or something else not visible to the web site. We are evolving, bear with us - and we'll continue to provide the community with the quality content it's come to expect, just in a different package. ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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