Return-Path: <sentto-279987-1522-996670179-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 01 Aug 2001 05:51:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 4181 invoked by uid 510); 1 Aug 2001 11:52:02 -0000 Received: from n2.groups.yahoo.com (216.115.96.52) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 1 Aug 2001 11:52:02 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-1522-996670179-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.53] by hi.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 Aug 2001 12:49:39 -0000 X-Sender: ellisd@cs.ucsb.edu X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 1 Aug 2001 12:49:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 27555 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2001 12:47:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Aug 2001 12:47:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n25.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.1.41) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Aug 2001 12:47:48 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: ellisd@cs.ucsb.edu Received: from [10.1.4.67] by mv.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 Aug 2001 12:47:47 -0000 To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <9k8tpi+odj6@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <20010801013732.93205.qmail@web14509.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 128.29.4.1 From: ellisd@cs.ucsb.edu Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 12:47:46 -0000 Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [iwar] Re: Chinese IW-one more thought Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --- In iwar@y..., "e.r." <fastflyer28@y...> wrote: > Leo, the Chinese have always liked quantity over quality. > For ex, they > might train their DO agents a total of two weeks for one mission. IMHO, humint is important, but it does not analogize with sigint or IO very well. The tools and the expertise are more dominant--skills and training our universities are very eager to provide. > That would make me feel too replaceable. The low skill level of > their human ops is well documented. They have gotten computer a > bit better-with out > help in training chinese "students". I am, however, still > unconvienced that their IWAR crew is anything more than marginal > quality at best. It only takes a few bright starts to provide tools that others can use. Once the few are able to provide tools, methodologies, algorithms, etc., the computer science geeks will be able to easily tool up to new tasks. I have a Chinese colleague at school (a fellow Ph.D. student in computer security) and I have every confidence that there is nothing that I know that he could not also learn (alright--maybe not a very high lower bound:). > Does notpreclude then from going high quantity to solve their > problem and it becomes our problem as we are few in number with > sorry funding. The only thing the numbers game helps with here is that the law of large numbers is on your side: if you have enough people you will eventually get a smart one. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Small business owners... Tell us what you think! http://us.click.yahoo.com/vO1FAB/txzCAA/ySSFAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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