Return-Path: <fastflyer28@yahoo.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 13 Aug 2001 22:37:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 9469 invoked by uid 510); 14 Aug 2001 05:35:32 -0000 Received: from web14510.mail.yahoo.com (216.136.224.169) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 14 Aug 2001 05:35:32 -0000 Message-ID: <20010814053535.70107.qmail@web14510.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.44.252.81] by web14510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 22:35:35 PDT Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 22:35:35 -0700 (PDT) From: "e.r." <fastflyer28@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [iwar]Tradecraft- To: fc@all.net In-Reply-To: <200108131330.GAA13757@big.all.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Fred Cohen <fc@all.net> wrote: > Per the message sent by e.r.: > > > Unless the "trade craft" you speak of is something you learned in > > summer camp, I think there is a fair amount of understanding that > > tradecraft such as it has been discussed are some of the techiques > that > ... > > You misunderstand. I know lots about tradecraft - the question was: > What tradecraft did who invent? Not a bad question. While most of it is quite simple, technology has given it a lift in the past few years. And, cyber info is now part of the games nations play.The conversation was a bit cryptic to pick that up. It appears that steg has been talked around-Ill pass. Thanks, fred > Steganography has been used by many folks over a long time frame. > Thousands of years. And it has evolved with technologies all along. > Letters have included microdots since photography got to the point > where > it could do decent quality size reduction. Radio broadcasts > contained > steganography since there was radio. No doubt so does TV. Computer > networks had steganagraphic content passed through them before the > Internet existed. The Internet started to have steganography soon > after > it was first used - albeit not in the form typically seen today. > > FC > > > --- Fred Cohen <fc@all.net> wrote: > > > Per the message sent by 7Pillars Partners: > > > > > > > I'm not saying we invented stego, but this particular > -tradecraft-. > > > MW > > > > > > What specific tradecraft is that, and who is the 'we' you are > talking > > > about? > > > > > > FC > > > > > > --This communication is confidential to the parties it is > intended to > > > serve-- > > > Fred Cohen Fred Cohen & Associates.........tel/fax:925-454-0171 > > > fc@all.net The University of New Haven.....http://www.unhca.com/ > > > http://all.net/ Sandia National Laboratories....tel:925-294-2087 > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. > > http://im.yahoo.com/ > > > ------------------ > > http://all.net/ > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > --This communication is confidential to the parties it is intended to > serve-- > Fred Cohen Fred Cohen & Associates.........tel/fax:925-454-0171 > fc@all.net The University of New Haven.....http://www.unhca.com/ > http://all.net/ Sandia National Laboratories....tel:925-294-2087 > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
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