Re: [iwar] [fc:Most.troubled.by.net.security]

From: Tony Bartoletti (azb@llnl.gov)
Date: 2002-01-03 11:10:06


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Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 11:10:06 -0800
Subject: Re: [iwar] [fc:Most.troubled.by.net.security]
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At 01:55 PM 1/2/02 -0700, you wrote:

>What is truly amazing, is how many people who are online and connected from
>their homes do not have a firewall in place.  One of my stand alone "other
>machines" we have at home, while connected via a modem to AOL was attacked
>15 times within a 30 minute time period, attempts to place trojan horse's,
>etc. on the machine.    On DSL and Cable modem's it has been far worse than
>that, perhaps only because those connections are somewhat permanent in
>nature.

What I find most disturbing is that some ISPs (and now, OS vendors) want 
you NOT to use your own firewall, as it interferes both with their own 
"auto-update" routines, and may frustrate their ability to productize 
upcoming "you didn't pay, so you cannot play" wares (or related, "you 
didn't let me snoop, so I won't cooperate" wares.)

The real challenge for computer security is to defeat this lose-lose 
situation.  Let individuals install and configure their own firewalls, and 
maybe 2 percent of them (optimistically) will do a decent job.  Let your 
"provider" (ISP/OS) take care of it for you, and trust that they will not 
abuse their access to your resources.

____tony____


Tony Bartoletti 925-422-3881 <azb@llnl.gov>
Information Operations, Warfare and Assurance Center
Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
Livermore, CA 94551-9900





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