Return-Path: <sentto-279987-5075-1027877065-fc=all.net@returns.groups.yahoo.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 [204.181.12.215] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.7.4) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Sun, 28 Jul 2002 10:28:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 5867 invoked by uid 510); 28 Jul 2002 17:23:24 -0000 Received: from n36.grp.scd.yahoo.com (66.218.66.104) by all.net with SMTP; 28 Jul 2002 17:23:24 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-5075-1027877065-fc=all.net@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.192] by n36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jul 2002 17:24:25 -0000 X-Sender: fastflyer28@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 28 Jul 2002 17:24:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 96930 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2002 17:24:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Jul 2002 17:24:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web14510.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.224.169) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 2002 17:24:23 -0000 Message-ID: <20020728172423.25132.qmail@web14510.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.100.20.143] by web14510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 10:24:23 PDT To: iwar@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <200207271752.g6RHqNX31654@red.all.net> From: "e.r." <fastflyer28@yahoo.com> X-Yahoo-Profile: fastflyer28 Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 10:24:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [iwar] [fc:Yale:.Princeton.Hacks.Admission.Site] Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,SOCIAL_SEC_NUMBER,RISK_FREE,FREE_MONEY,SUPERLONG_LINE version=2.20 X-Spam-Level: * While the Princton-Yale affair sickens me as an Ivy alum, taking such an underhanded action to get the best students these days would likely be an equalivent of an athletically oriented school doing the same to garner information on potential students to recruite for a sports team. It would be a clear NCAA recruting violation if the hack were over student athletes. The two universities are never hurting for competetion for the best students in the nation. What generated this sleezy behavior goes far beyond any rational action,or comparitive analysis purposes. I did grad work at Dartmouth's Thayer School of engineering and know that they attract both bright very athletically and generallly outdoor types give the climate. It is not for everyone, but Yale and Princton do not have such disparities which makes their action incusible Fred Cohen wrote:Yale: Princeton Hacks Admission Site Yale Complains That Princeton Admissions Officials Hacked Into Site for Prospective Students <a href="http://www.abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20020725_1592.html">http://www.abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20020725_1592.html> NEW HAVEN, Conn. (AP) Yale University complained to the FBI on Thursday that admissions officials at Princeton hacked into a Yale Web site that was set up for prospective students. Yale said it found 18 unauthorized log-ins to the Web site that were traced back to computers at Princeton, including computers in the admissions office. "We're assessing the information to see if there is a federal violation," FBI spokeswoman Lisa Bull said. The head of admissions at Princeton said the school just checked the site to see how secure it was. Princeton gained access by looking up students who had applied to both schools. "It was really an innocent way for us to check out the security," Stephen LeMenager, Princeton's dean of admissions, told the Yale Daily News, which broke the story Thursday in its online edition. "That was our main concern of having an online notification system, that it would be susceptible to people who had that information parents, guidance counselors, and admissions officers at other schools." Yale said Princeton's actions violated the privacy of the students. "We have therefore notified appropriate law enforcement authorities as well as the applicants whose Web locations were accessed," said Dorothy K. Robinson, Yale vice president and general counsel. The Web site was activated for a few weeks in the spring so that undergraduate applicants could find out if they got in to Yale. Applicants could access the site by using their Social Security numbers and birthdates. The site included links to admissions information and personal data about the students. If a student was admitted, the site flashed fireworks and a congratulatory message. If the student did not get in, a message indicating that was displayed. The site included a notice that only students, not parents or others, may access the site, and it warned that Yale would investigate and act on any unauthorized use. This was the first year Yale used the Web site, which proved to be popular with students. The day it went online in April, more than 9,700 applicants had logged in, including 1,190 of the nearly 1,500 students who were admitted. Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Free $5 Love Reading Risk Free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/NsdPZD/PfREAA/Ey.GAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! 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