Return-Path: <sentto-279987-1406-994718474-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com> Delivered-To: fc@all.net Received: from 204.181.12.215 by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0) for fc@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 09 Jul 2001 15:42:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 13883 invoked by uid 510); 9 Jul 2001 21:43:35 -0000 Received: from hl.egroups.com (208.50.99.197) by 204.181.12.215 with SMTP; 9 Jul 2001 21:43:35 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-279987-1406-994718474-fc=all.net@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.56] by hl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 09 Jul 2001 22:41:14 -0000 X-Sender: azb@llnl.gov X-Apparently-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 9 Jul 2001 22:41:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 95073 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2001 22:41:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Jul 2001 22:41:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp-1.llnl.gov) (128.115.250.81) by mta3 with SMTP; 9 Jul 2001 22:41:13 -0000 Received: from poptop.llnl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-1.llnl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3/LLNL-gateway-1.0) with ESMTP id PAA07846 for <iwar@yahoogroups.com>; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 15:41:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from catalyst.llnl.gov (catalyst.llnl.gov [128.115.222.68]) by poptop.llnl.gov (8.8.8/LLNL-3.0.2/pop.llnl.gov-5.1) with ESMTP id PAA10550 for <iwar@yahoogroups.com>; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 15:41:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010709152345.00b06cc0@poptop.llnl.gov> X-Sender: e048786@poptop.llnl.gov X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 To: iwar@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <200107050239.TAA05421@big.all.net> From: Tony Bartoletti <azb@llnl.gov> Mailing-List: list iwar@yahoogroups.com; contact iwar-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list iwar@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:iwar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 15:50:48 -0700 Reply-To: iwar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [iwar] news Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Man's journal ruled obscene > >Wednesday, July 4, 2001 > >Tim Doulin >Dispatch Staff Reporter > >Brian Dalton wrote fictitious tales of sexually abusing and torturing >children in his private journal, intending that no one else see them, he >said. > >But when his probation officer found the journal during a routine search >of Dalton's Columbus home, prosecutors charged him with pandering >obscenity involving a minor. > >In Franklin County Common Pleas Court yesterday, the 22-year-old man's >written words cost him 10 years in prison. Will he get to write while in prison? I read this in the paper last week, and I too am perplexed. I looked up "pander" in the dictionary (not a word I often use) and it seems to require that one provide illicit material or acts to a third party (e.g, as a pimp) and not to oneself. Furthermore, to "involve a minor" (I believe) requires that a "real" minor be involved in some way, such as with child porn photography. Fiction about children, that is not provided to children, (or not provided to anyone!) has to be exempt in my estimation. Fiction might involve "the idea of a minor", but does not involve any produceable minor. We must be missing something here. Such a ruling cannot stand. Shall all works of fiction depicting crime be deemed products of a criminal act? Will Angela Lansbury be next? ___tony___ Tony Bartoletti 925-422-3881 <azb@llnl.gov> Information Operations, Warfare and Assurance Center Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory Livermore, CA 94551-9900 ------------------ http://all.net/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.2 : 2001-09-29 21:08:37 PDT